Mazzer Major Electronic - Is it worth paying more to get the motor cooling fan?
I am about to buy two Mazzer Majors and am debating between the electronic and non-electronic versions. The main decision point for me is the motor cooling fan. Does it really make enough difference in temperature to make it worth an extra $700 times 2?
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Permalink Reply by Brady on
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I think the doser vs doserless aspect is a bigger consideration. So is the fact that the E's programmability can reduce your waste. Those aspects justify the extra expense much more than that $4 muffin fan.
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Permalink Reply by Bryan Wray on
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E's are way easier on your countertop cleanup as well. If I (we) had the $$ we'd probably have thrown down on some Major E's, but you don't see those pop up on Craigslist for like $200 very often ;)
-bry
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Permalink Reply by Jared Rutledge on
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get a compak k-10 WBC (man compak should pay me royalties for how much i recommend them!)
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Jared Rutledge said:get a compak k-10 WBC (man compak should pay me royalties for how much i recommend them!)
I totally agree... they should pay you for your free advertising. ;)
-bry
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Permalink Reply by Joseph Robertson on
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I will make a difference, like HUGE if one fails due to over heating. I generally tend to believe the fan concept was put in the design because some one or a team of engineers believed the heat could be a serious factor. I built computers as a hobby. I have had several fans fail in my systems but never the boards or power supplies the fan was set up to cool.
If $ is the biggest issure do not go electronic.
Just a few pennies more than my usual 2 cents worth.
Joe
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Permalink Reply by Simon Ouderkirk on
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Grinders, especially once you start getting into the high-end commercial stuff, are worth what you pay for them. We just made the move to Robur-Es and I couldn't be happier. But that's not what you asked.
The fan alone, as others have said, is not worth $700. But the fact is, in my opinion, going doserless and timing your grind to the hundredth of a second IS worth $700. And once you move away from a doser, you're going to be able to pull more shots per hour due to decreased prep time, and that additional productivity comes with quite a lot of heat. The heat created by a grinder, especially the big boys like the Major, is not insignificant, and it can become a serious issue. The fans aren't merely aesthetic! You want to reduce the heat being transferred from your motor to the ground coffee as much as possible, and the rebranded CPU fans do help.
On some level we're looking at more of a general design flaw, placing a heat-generating motor directly beneath a culinary product highly sensitive to changes in temperature, but that's an issue for another thread.
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I hate it when spell check doesn't catch a missing letter, but of course "I" is a word.
When I meant "It will make a difference,"
:0)
Joseph Robertson said:I will make a difference, like HUGE if one fails due to over heating. I generally tend to believe the fan concept was put in the design because some one or a team of engineers believed the heat could be a serious factor. I built computers as a hobby. I have had several fans fail in my systems but never the boards or power supplies the fan was set up to cool.
If $ is the biggest issure do not go electronic.
Just a few pennies more than my usual 2 cents worth.
Joe
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JR, I kind of liked how it read before, almost as if you're a superhero: GRINDERMAN!
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Permalink Reply by Jason Shipley on
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I wouldn't buy a Major E. If you are going to go Electric you really are best served by going all the way up to the Rubur. The Major is not very accurate unless the hopper is full. The Rubur has a feeder that helps solve that problem. Are you planning to use the Major's for regular and decaf? I would just do an SJ and a E-Rubur for what the 2 Majors will cost.
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Boy, Simon, that's a hard act to follow but it has a nice ring...."Grinderman"
Now if I can just afford another one for SO's
Joe
Simon Ouderkirk said:JR, I kind of liked how it read before, almost as if you're a superhero: GRINDERMAN!
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Permalink Reply by Sean Maddox on
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I think I'm gonna go with the non-E and convert to doserless chute and maybe add an after market timer.
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Be sure you go with 120 volt and not 220 like I use. I say this in referance to adding an external timer.
Joe
Sean Maddox said:Thanks for the replies everyone. I think I'm gonna go with the non-E and convert to doserless chute and maybe add an after market timer.
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