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Permalink Reply by Chris Avirett on December 8, 2008 at 2:35pm

I am no supplier either but I do want to own a shop in a few years, and a good idea for designing your shop is contacting a person or group that designs bars ( or pubs). The basic idea that you are going for in a shop is the same as a pub would be, even the name "barista" is Italian for bartender. You're serving drinks and giving people a place to hang out with friends. I am only giving this advice because I plan on going about my shop in some what the same manner. Good luck

Permalink Reply by Treva on December 8, 2008 at 3:40pm

I believe the movements of the baristas can be somewhat choreographed for a good pace in a good space. I've seen baristas get into their groove; it can be a bit of a dance. We want to take everything into consideration: glass milk bottles in efficient refrigerators in exactly the right spot. Plumbing, filtering, drainage, knock boxes, waste, a big collection of ceramic cups, retail products, sound, tables, comfort, customer flow, cash register, music, ambience, deliveries, FOH business, art etc. i can go on. I've designed several kitchens and spaces and though the results were good, I have an idea of what bad design and poorly considered spaces can mean. I've been a chef on private yachts for the most of the past five years and have seen it all. I know where to find coffee shop designers, but I wanted to ask here - on Barista Exchange in hopes of finding or starting a discussion that might benefit the Barista Exchange community. I'd also like to ask Baristas about their peeves with design. What works and what doesn't. I may want to start a new topic on this and take it out of this group. If this has already been discussed on BX - I haven't found it. Thanks for the suggestion though. I bet a good consultant could work with a good bar designer and come up with a great design. Where will you have your shop, Cavirett? What existing shops do you consider to be great designs. I need to get out to the Northwest and LA to take a look at the newest establishments.

Permalink Reply by Jon Mitchell on February 18, 2009 at 7:39am

Treva - I do believe Bellissimo does coffee bar design. In fact I know they as I was just in a class last week there and they talked about it. His up Matt Milletto at Bellissimo to inquire.



Treva said:

I believe the movements of the baristas can be somewhat choreographed for a good pace in a good space. I've seen baristas get into their groove; it can be a bit of a dance. We want to take everything into consideration: glass milk bottles in efficient refrigerators in exactly the right spot. Plumbing, filtering, drainage, knock boxes, waste, a big collection of ceramic cups, retail products, sound, tables, comfort, customer flow, cash register, music, ambience, deliveries, FOH business, art etc. i can go on. I've designed several kitchens and spaces and though the results were good, I have an idea of what bad design and poorly considered spaces can mean. I've been a chef on private yachts for the most of the past five years and have seen it all. I know where to find coffee shop designers, but I wanted to ask here - on Barista Exchange in hopes of finding or starting a discussion that might benefit the Barista Exchange community. I'd also like to ask Baristas about their peeves with design. What works and what doesn't. I may want to start a new topic on this and take it out of this group. If this has already been discussed on BX - I haven't found it. Thanks for the suggestion though. I bet a good consultant could work with a good bar designer and come up with a great design. Where will you have your shop, Cavirett? What existing shops do you consider to be great designs. I need to get out to the Northwest and LA to take a look at the newest establishments.

Permalink Reply by Mark Jackson on April 28, 2009 at 7:03am

You should consider design and layout service www.designlayout.com and ask them how they can help they do a great job and have lots of experience.