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Permalink Reply by Alun Evans on June 9, 2009 at 4:44am

If I am not wrong, Saeco originally brought out the company that made Spidem in the first place? I have no real quarel with Saeco- they produce a product for a certain segment of the market and deliver it adequetly. We have in the past been pressured to put low-end Superauto's into some of our institution clients bars and sports clubs. We have used Saeco Spidems- as a roaster I was not that satisfied with the results. We now use Jura machines for the same purpose. Generally they perform a wee bit better although I would obviously really prefer semi or autos.

I think a Phillips-Saeco Merger would not be necessarily a bad thing for either company- infact it is quite savvy. Phillips has clobbered the home user market in Holland and Germany with their Senseo and its PPPPods. My guess is the marriage (working relationship) between Phillips and Doewe Egberts (Sara Lee) is strong and they are both looking at ways to extend their market reach beyond the pod approach.

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Permalink Reply by Eldad Yogev on June 9, 2009 at 9:17am

Great information that you shared as I didn't know Saeco bought the Spidem company. I do have to respectfully disagree about Jura. Yes their machines are good and the higher end ones make some of the best automatic microfoam, but internally we have found the components to be of lesser quality than others.

In fact, some of the higher end models have the same components as mid-range or lower competitors. Which Jura machines did you use in the past? Have you tried any of the other Saeco's like the Odea family?

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